As Administrator of the ELDER DNA project, I have sent several ELDER kits from
most of our ELDER lines to the ULSTER Heritage DNA chart.
My brother's kit #10042 is in your "ELDER CLAN" section, matching
11 kits which I have labelled "Franklin Co PA" on my ELDER webpage
My notes for ELDER in ARGYLL are posted
We haven't proved a paper trail connection to ARGYLL yet, but have some strong
evidence for connection.
Descendant of this ELDER family matches my brother's DNA:
"David and Isabella Elder and those who came after them : a
compilation of such data as can be obtained concerning the Elder
family as represented by the David Elder branch"
Elder, Orville. Publisher: [Elder], 1928. 126 p. :
In Allen County Public Library, Ft. Wayne, IN:
Call Number 929.2 EL231E - Genealogy Department
"The Elder Family are of Scotch origin of the County of Argyle and on the maternal side,
the head of the house of Argyle the mother of the first Duke of Argyle being an Elder. [PEERAGE notes - no ELDER]
The first one of the name to come to America was one John Elder who
with several of his family left Scotland about the middle of the 17th
century, the others went to the North of Ireland but he (John) came
to America, settling in Southeastern Penn., and the descendants are
the family to which we belong, he being my great grandfather's great grandfather.
My mother's family the Wrays were also of Scottish origin.
My grandfather James Wray came to America about 1795
settling at Philadelphia, the rest of his family coming about 1815.
My grandfather's mother was cousin to Robbie Burns."
Carolyn Shearer wrote:
>Was doing some data entry on the Sharps of Cumberland Co, PA.
All the old bios agree that Thomas Sharp 'born Ireland' married Margaret Elder.
I was doing some searching on the LDS site, to see what anyone said about their marriage date.
Could not find it, but did get a hit on the baptisms of the first 5 children.
They were all baptized in [Campbeltown], Argyll, Scotland. ...
The [Campbeltown] baptisms read like a census of early Cumberland and Franklin Co's:
Elders, Stewarts, Witherspoon, Alexanders, Armour, Barr etc.
Current online listing:
Dr Malcolm R. Elder
Carradale and Campbeltown Argyll PA28 6QG
and his ARGYLL meeting:
Dr. ELDER of Carradale, Campbeltown -2006
Argyll & Bute CHP Management Team Meeting
22 August 2006
Lorn & Islands District General Hospital, Oban
"9.1.2 GP Out of Hours " (OOH) (maybe emergency hours?)
..."John also advised that currently there is no provision for a GP OOHs in
the Carradale and Skipness area. The GPs in Campbeltown currently do
not wish to take on the provision of cover for this area, a meeting has
been arranged with the Campbeltown GPs for September. Meantime Dr
Elder has agreed to continue to provide OOH cover. "
Early ELDER entry:
From the Book of Old Edinburgh Club, Vol. IX
Issued to Members May 1918
Published for the Club by T & A Constable, Edinburgh 1916
Extracts from the Article
"ORIGINAL TOLBOOTH RECORDS" by John A. Fairley.
Brian Orr writes:
>I found this attached tale of a Robert Elder of Kintyre ( west coast
of Argyllshire) who was arrested (warded) and held in the Edinburgh
Tolbooth accused of murder in July 1684; subsequently the Lord
Advocate himself, Sir George "Bloody" McKenzie of Rosehaugh, admitted
there was no evidence and that he should be released. "
Page 141 --JULY 11th 1684
ROBERT ELDER of KINTYRE, ARGYLL - sent to EDINBURGH for murder
Page 165 --NOVEMBR 18th 1684
ROBERT ELDER of KINTYRE, ARGYLL - is released
CENSUS entries (and others)
1841 ARGYLL Census-- Ancestry.com
Birthplace Civil Parish
Charles Elder abt 1766 Argyll, Scotland Campbeltown Argyll 507
Eliza Elder abt 1781 Scotland Campbeltown Argyll 507
Margaret Elder abt 1766 Argyll, Scotland Campbeltown Argyll 507
Mary Elder abt 1816 Argyll, Scotland Jura Argyll 539
Sarah Elder abt 1801 Scotland Campbeltown Argyll 507
Robert ELDER, b. abt 1809 (Father: JOHN b. abt 1782, INVERARARY, ARGYLL)
Minister, Kilbrandon (1831-34) - Isle of Seil.....http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/GlasgowUnivRobert.htm
Books from Univ. of Glasgow
PHOTO of page:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/GlasgowUnivRobert.jpg
"10556 Robertus ELDER f. n. Max: Joannis Artif; [eldest son of John]
Campbletown, Argath: [Argyll] M.A. 1825. D.D. 1871.
Minister of (1) Kilbrandon, 1831-34, [On Isle of SEIL Southwest of Oban]
(2) Killin, 1834-38, [Killan - 43 miles northwest of Perth]
(3) St. Paul's Edinburgh, 1838-43,
(4) Free St. Paul's there, 1843-47,
(5) the Free Church, Rothesay, 1847-92. [Rothesay, Bute - 69 miles from Campbeltown]
Moderator of the General Assembly of the Free Church, 1871.
Died 30th March, 1892.
Always hoping for more connections!
---Nancy Elder Petersen
Host, ELDER DNA project
Vancouver, Washington State, USANancyElderPetersen@yahoo.com